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Report, United Mutual (COOP) Board Meeting, 2-12-2013
2013.02.18 05:35
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Dear Friends,
We have been receiving emails and phone calls asking us what the heck happened at the last Board Meeting.
Did the resolution that was voted on last month to totally rescind U-84-84 (the 6 month lease restriction) pass the final vote?
NO. The opposition put forth an amendment to the resolution to put the resolution on a ballot for a community vote. After a long, passionate discussion, this amendment was voted on and not passed.
Was there another resolution, on the Agenda, written by the Corporation's attorney, Sandra Gottlieb which removes all time limits on the sublease of manors?
YES. Did this pass? YES. Will there be another waiting period? YES. However, the waiting period will be a few days longer because the law calls for a 30 day member comment time frame, and February only has 28 days. The March Board meeting is less than the 30 days. The next regular Board meeting will be April 9th, 2013.
Is there any way that this new resolution will activate SB-150 and create two classes of residents?
ATTORNEY SANDRA GOTTLIEB SAYS IT WILL NOT, but PPV urges you to contact any friend or relative who has knowledge in this area and run it past them. Now, you all might be asking yourself, "Why the new resolution? What was wrong with the original resolution?" This is PPV's Board's perception and conjecture: You'll remember that last month, at the January Board meeting, right before the vote on Director Doran's resolution, Sandra Gottlieb dropped the bombshell that if we return to the days before U-84-84 was passed, there would be no renting abilities - period. Director Doran countered that he had done his due diligence, conferred with outside attorneys, and that her assessment was incorrect. She told the Board that if they did not take her advice that all the Board was open to law suits, and that the insurance would not cover costs because the Board failed to take council's advice. As you know, the resolution passed. Director Doran then challenged Ms. Gottlieb to offer wording that would accomplish the elimination of the 6 month lease restriction, without imposing a "no rental" status. What she did was to write the following, which took 3 pages (remember the revised Bylaws and Occupancy Agreement). Only the basic resolution is quoted here:
February 12th, United's Board of Directors has determined that United shall
EXPLANATION:
Is this Resolution overkill?
Your PPV Board |
Comment 2
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박미자
2013.02.18 06:04
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박미자
2013.02.18 06:09
Dear Coop Members,
지난 2/12이 보드미팅 결과에 대한 내용입니다. 앞에 계시판에 내용이 짤려져서 다시 시도합니다. 박미자
Dear Friends,
We have been receiving emails and phone calls asking us what the heck happened at the last Board Meeting.
Did the resolution that was voted on last month to totally rescind U-84-84 (the 6 month lease restriction) pass the final vote?
NO. The opposition put forth an amendment to the resolution to put the resolution on a ballot for a community vote. After a long, passionate discussion, this amendment was voted on and not passed.
Was there another resolution, on the Agenda, written by the Corporation's attorney, Sandra Gottlieb which removes all time limits on the sublease of manors?
YES. Did this pass? YES. Will there be another waiting period? YES. However, the waiting period will be a few days longer because the law calls for a 30 day member comment time frame, and February only has 28 days. The March Board meeting is less than the 30 days. The next regular Board meeting will be April 9th, 2013.
Is there any way that this new resolution will activate SB-150 and create two classes of residents?
ATTORNEY SANDRA GOTTLIEB SAYS IT WILL NOT, but PPV urges you to contact any friend or relative who has knowledge in this area and run it past them. Now, you all might be asking yourself, "Why the new resolution? What was wrong with the original resolution?" This is PPV's Board's perception and conjecture: You'll remember that last month, at the January Board meeting, right before the vote on Director Doran's resolution, Sandra Gottlieb dropped the bombshell that if we return to the days before U-84-84 was passed, there would be no renting abilities - period. Director Doran countered that he had done his due diligence, conferred with outside attorneys, and that her assessment was incorrect. She told the Board that if they did not take her advice that all the Board was open to law suits, and that the insurance would not cover costs because the Board failed to take council's advice. As you know, the resolution passed. Director Doran then challenged Ms. Gottlieb to offer wording that would accomplish the elimination of the 6 month lease restriction, without imposing a "no rental" status. What she did was to write the following, which took 3 pages (remember the revised Bylaws and Occupancy Agreement). Only the basic resolution is quoted here:
February 12th, United's Board of Directors has determined that United shall
(1) abandon the Rescission,
(2) remove the Sublease Term Limit and all other resolutions of the United Board of Directors which establish time limits on the sublease of manors and
(3) ratify the Pre-Existing Qualifiers.EXPLANATION:
1) "Abandon the Rescission" means that they'll drop the vote on Director Doran's resolution from the previous meeting.
2) Any resolution limiting the length of time you can rent will be deleted.
3) Ms. Gottlieb said that to create this document, she went through all United documents and State law documents which presently outline what the Corporation can do if you or your tenant break or abuse the rental rules. These she added and named them as "qualifiers." Among these “qualifiers” are the 20% cap, the right of the Corporation to evict, impose fines, etc. She listed 15 of these.Is this Resolution overkill?
Of course it is, but let us remember that our Board sits for us on a voluntary basis. If you were faced with a decision to run a course that may lead you into a Civil lawsuit, or a course where your back is protected - but you'd end up at the same finish line - what would you do? We're all anxious to move on with our lives and put this behind us. Although our patience is being tried, hopefully this will be completely resolved in 55 days, by April 9th. We've attached a copy of the complete Resolution, along with the Qualifiers. It will be posted on United's web site http://www.lagunawoodsvillage.com/section.cfm?id=350 for rule changes. As of this morning, it was not yet posted. Thanks to all of you who have attended Board meetings, discussed the issue with your neighbors, wrote letters to the Board, wrote letters to the Globe, and donated time and funds to keep this issue relevant and PPV vocal. But you know, it isn't over yet. And since the amount of trust that we relegate to Sandra Gottlieb resides somewhere in the negative, we must continue to be vigilant - extremely vigilant.Your PPV Board
Any inquiry as to this board and website or suggestions should be directed to Admin (e-mail: 김익현 ikkim922@hotmail.com ). Thanks!
Dear Coop Members,
지난 2/12이 보드미팅 결과에 대한 내용입니다. 앞에 계시판에 내용이 짤려져서 다시 시도합니다. 박미자
Dear Friends,
We have been receiving emails and phone calls asking us what the heck happened at the last Board Meeting.
Did the resolution that was voted on last month to totally rescind U-84-84 (the 6 month lease restriction) pass the final vote?
NO. The opposition put forth an amendment to the resolution to put the resolution on a ballot for a community vote. After a long, passionate discussion, this amendment was voted on and not passed.
Was there another resolution, on the Agenda, written by the Corporation's attorney, Sandra Gottlieb which removes all time limits on the sublease of manors?
YES. Did this pass? YES. Will there be another waiting period? YES. However, the waiting period will be a few days longer because the law calls for a 30 day member comment time frame, and February only has 28 days. The March Board meeting is less than the 30 days. The next regular Board meeting will be April 9th, 2013.
Is there any way that this new resolution will activate SB-150 and create two classes of residents?
ATTORNEY SANDRA GOTTLIEB SAYS IT WILL NOT, but PPV urges you to contact any friend or relative who has knowledge in this area and run it past them. Now, you all might be asking yourself, "Why the new resolution? What was wrong with the original resolution?" This is PPV's Board's perception and conjecture: You'll remember that last month, at the January Board meeting, right before the vote on Director Doran's resolution, Sandra Gottlieb dropped the bombshell that if we return to the days before U-84-84 was passed, there would be no renting abilities - period. Director Doran countered that he had done his due diligence, conferred with outside attorneys, and that her assessment was incorrect. She told the Board that if they did not take her advice that all the Board was open to law suits, and that the insurance would not cover costs because the Board failed to take council's advice. As you know, the resolution passed. Director Doran then challenged Ms. Gottlieb to offer wording that would accomplish the elimination of the 6 month lease restriction, without imposing a "no rental" status. What she did was to write the following, which took 3 pages (remember the revised Bylaws and Occupancy Agreement). Only the basic resolution is quoted here:
February 12th, United's Board of Directors has determined that United shall
(1) abandon the Rescission,
(2) remove the Sublease Term Limit and all other resolutions of the United Board of Directors which establish time limits on the sublease of manors and
(3) ratify the Pre-Existing Qualifiers.
EXPLANATION:
1) "Abandon the Rescission" means that they'll drop the vote on Director Doran's resolution from the previous meeting.
2) Any resolution limiting the length of time you can rent will be deleted.
3) Ms. Gottlieb said that to create this document, she went through all United documents and State law documents which presently outline what the Corporation can do if you or your tenant break or abuse the rental rules. These she added and named them as "qualifiers." Among these “qualifiers” are the 20% cap, the right of the Corporation to evict, impose fines, etc. She listed 15 of these.
Is this Resolution overkill?
Of course it is, but let us remember that our Board sits for us on a voluntary basis. If you were faced with a decision to run a course that may lead you into a Civil lawsuit, or a course where your back is protected - but you'd end up at the same finish line - what would you do? We're all anxious to move on with our lives and put this behind us. Although our patience is being tried, hopefully this will be completely resolved in 55 days, by April 9th. We've attached a copy of the complete Resolution, along with the Qualifiers. It will be posted on United's web site http://www.lagunawoodsvillage.com/section.cfm?id=350 for rule changes. As of this morning, it was not yet posted. Thanks to all of you who have attended Board meetings, discussed the issue with your neighbors, wrote letters to the Board, wrote letters to the Globe, and donated time and funds to keep this issue relevant and PPV vocal. But you know, it isn't over yet. And since the amount of trust that we relegate to Sandra Gottlieb resides somewhere in the negative, we must continue to be vigilant - extremely vigilant.
Your PPV Board